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New template requirements

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Style and formatting

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  • A new user should be able to understand the template.
  • The template should not be so long that no one will read it
  • ... but neither so short that it lacks vital information.

New template (Draft edition)

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Your account has been ویکی‌پدیا:قطع دسترسی indefinitely from editing Wikipedia because it appears to be mainly intended for publicity and/or promotional purposes. If you intend to edit constructively in other topic areas, you may be granted the right to continue under a change of username. Please read the following carefully.
Why can't I edit Wikipedia?

Your account's edits and/or username indicate that it is being used on behalf of a company, group, website or organization for purposes of promotion and/or publicity. The edits may have violated one or more of our rules on spamming, which include: ویکی‌پدیا:هرزنامه, ویکی‌پدیا:هرزنامه and ویکی‌پدیا:ویکی‌پدیا چه چیزی نیست. Wikipedia has many articles on , groups, and , but such groups are generally discouraged from using Wikipedia to write about themselves. In addition, usernames like yours are disallowed under our ویکی‌پدیا:سیاست نام کاربری.

Am I allowed to make these edits if I change my username?

Probably not, although if you can demonstrate a pattern of future editing in strict accordance with our neutral point of view policy, you may be granted this right. See ویکی‌پدیا:پرسش‌های رایج/سازمان‌ها for a helpful list of frequently asked questions by people in your position. Also, review the ویکی‌پدیا:تعارض منافع to see the kinds of limitations you would have to obey if you did want to continue editing about your company, group, organization, or clients. If this does not fit in with your goals, then you will not be allowed to edit Wikipedia again.

What can I do now?

If you have no interest in writing about some other topic than your organization, group, company, or product, you may consider using one of the many websites that allow this instead.

If you do intend to make useful contributions here about some other topic, you must convince a ویکی‌پدیا:مدیران that you mean it. To that end, please do the following:

  • Add the text {{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}} on your user talk page.
  • Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with a new username you are willing to use. See Special:Listusers to search for available usernames. Your new username will need to meet our ویکی‌پدیا:سیاست نام کاربری.
  • Replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason to be unblocked. In this reason, you must:
    • Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the edits for which you were blocked.
    • Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

If you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Excirial (talk • contribs)

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(Note - I "unsigned" your post for you and keeping this all on one page for simplicity, please fix if you prefer it differently).

I agree with all the above, so much so that I don't have much to say on your bullet list of contents, and I have gone directly to trying to find a "middle way" draft. I may have made progress, so I'd be interested what you think. I wondered if the existing subsections may be a barrier to a better approach (adds spacing, repetitious, and BITEy). I think we could reduce it to just 3 parts (header+2 rather than header+3 as at present):

  1. Usual header, stating that "You have been blocked" + reasons.
  2. "What do I do now? - The appropriate ways to address the block (whether the user intends promotion, constructive editing, reporting a problem, or believes there is an error/wishes to appeal generally)
  3. "Process for requesting unblock"

This is just a draft, but I am hopeful it's heading in the right direction. Your bulleted list of criteria was a really good idea. So this draft has the advantage it's not much different length, but it's simpler, less BITEy, and covers pretty much all the issues now. It's probably got scope for further style/flow/length improvements if the general idea works. So I'd be interested to know what you think, if it's an improvement we can build on, or if it sparks new ideas from you. (And if it isn't helpful, what next to find a better approach). However, as you commented, it might be that our experience of "what helps" is different (otrs vs. unblock requests, even if for similar reasons), so I've put a few notes/questions/comments below where I'm not sure which approach or wording is better.

Your account is ویکی‌پدیا:قطع دسترسی from editing Wikipedia because it appears you intend to engage in publicity or promotional editing, and also your account seems inappropriately named or the name suggests it may be shared by more than one person. Wikipedia's rules prohibit PR and promotional editing (including "ویکی‌پدیا:هرزنامه" and ویکی‌پدیا:پیوند به بیرون), and require that your account is ویکی‌پدیا:سیاست نام کاربری and clearly used for ویکی‌پدیا:حساب زاپاس.
What do I do now?
  • If you intend to advertize, promote or publicize yourself or any other body or organization, then Wikipedia is probably not for you. We have strict policies on this and usually these kinds of additions will be quickly removed, and the accounts responsible are quickly blocked. You can find a list of alternative outlets that are more suitable here.
  • If you just want to make a correction or improvement, or fix a problem with an article: We will always take seriously, reader reports about possible unlawful content, defamation, minors at risk, copyright violation (and permission to use copyrighted media on Wikipedia), article corrections, and privacy breach. If these are all you need, you can directly email a ویکی‌پدیا:تماس با ما or else request a review of the block as below. Emergency removal of defamatory, privacy breaching, or copyright material can also be quickly requested here.
How to request an administrator to review the block

If you intend to make constructive edits, and have read and understand our policies linked above, or you believe there has been a mistake, then you can ask an administrator to consider unblocking you. If your reasons are genuinely due to ویکی‌پدیا:لطفاً با چماق به استقبال تازه‌واردها نروید, you may be given ویکی‌پدیا:فرض حسن نیت. To do this:

  1. You must first understand why you were blocked and which policies may have been breached, or if it was a simple mistake then show why this block shouldn't have been placed on your account. (If you aren't sure why your account was blocked, please say so and ask for an explanation)
  2. You need to explain thoughtfully, with a bit of detail, how exactly - if unblocked - you would plan to edit in a way that is appropriate and constructive, and is not ویکی‌پدیا:دیدگاه بی‌طرف or ویکی‌پدیا:ویکی‌پدیا چه چیزی نیست, or just for ویکی‌پدیا:تعارض منافع. Useful resources:
    (list of pages)
  3. Then you need to add the following unblock request to the end of your own talk page exactly as shown: {{unblock-spamun|1=Your proposed new username here|2=Your reason and anything else here}}
    – Replace the text "Your proposed new username here" with a new username that meets our ویکی‌پدیا:سیاست نام کاربری. (Check it isn't already used)
    – Replace the text "Your reason and anything else here" with your reason to be unblocked, and any other information or comments that you think will help an administrator to decide whether to unblock you. In this reason, you must:
    • Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the edits for which you were blocked.
    • Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.
    – If you will need help or support with your editing, to be sure it meets our policies, please describe the help you may need.

It is crucial that you ویکی‌پدیا:حساب زاپاس to get around the block, even if your request is declined, because this will probably be detected and result in a much more severe block for evasion.

Comments:

  1. I have left out the use of one unblock template for genuine issues and a second generic unblock template for mistaken blocks. That added confusion and length and did nothing to help. If it's a mistake and they follow the above directions, then using the same {{unblock-spamun}} template will get them as good and as fast a review, and keeps it much simpler.
  2. The third bullet under What do I do now? is too long and I'd like your view on these:
    • "genuinely constructive useful edits and improvements to articles that will improve Wikipedia" has redundancy - "constructive" and "useful" aren't both needed, nor are "edits" and "improvements". Not sure what's best though. (Perhaps "genuinely constructive improvements to articles that will improve Wikipedia" or something?)
    • "and want to get it right" is added because a plea to good faith often works surprisingly well (if we suggest they can get help to do it right) and effectively helps users to get a mentoring or helpful guidance request that may lead them to suggest changes on a talk page or some other more appropriate approach. It's also pretty direct. However, remove if too verbose.
  3. Which wording is simpler for last section 2nd sentence:
    "If your reasons are genuinely due to ویکی‌پدیا:لطفاً با چماق به استقبال تازه‌واردها نروید, you may be given ویکی‌پدیا:فرض حسن نیت."
    "If your reasons are genuinely due to ویکی‌پدیا:لطفاً با چماق به استقبال تازه‌واردها نروید, you may be given ویکی‌پدیا:فرض حسن نیت."
    and
    "How to request an administrator to review the block"
    "How to ask an administrator to review the block"
    "How to request a review of the block"
    (There may be other places where the wording can be improved, if the general idea is okay)
  4. The "block appeal" bullets might contain duplication, I'm not sure. 2nd bullet, and 2nd sub-bullet under 3rd bullet, both describe "explaining what you intend to do if unblocked". Are they duplicates, or can we refactor the "unblock request process" section completely, for better brevity?
  5. The very last bullet under block appeal (If you will need help or support with your editing...) seems useful - but if it makes it too long and you think the point's sufficiently made already, then feel free to remove it. My thought here is, if a user is encouraged to say what they need, they will also be more open about what they intend to do. If they are promotional users it'll be clearer, but if they are good faith but inexperienced, or have COI but want to "get it right", it'll get them thinking about help or what help they need to follow policies, which may lead them to being decent editors over time, or avoiding blocks and other mistakes.
  6. I have left out for now, these four snippets, which may be helpful if merged in:
    "If you do intend to make useful contributions here about some other topic, or you believe your editing will improve our articles, you must convince a Wikipedia administrator that you mean it and that your edits will make a real improvement in some area of coverage, or fix some real problem (however minor), and are not just promotional. We will only consider requests to change an article if the changes meet our site policies. As a simple guide, requests of a promotional nature are almost always refused, but genuine errors, omissions, unbalanced and non-neutral coverage, outdated facts, substandard coverage of a living person, genuine intent to edit appropriately, and genuine improvements to our pages and content – even if minor – may sometimes be accepted if other editors agree with you." (identifies types of edits - even from a promo user - that we do want to consider and not suggest will be auto-rejected out of hand)
    "Wikipedia is based on discussion between editors, so it makes a big difference if you can discuss our concerns and accept our policies." (encourages above all, to discuss not battle, however angry or frustrated they may be)
    "Individuals, companies, groups, and organizations are generally discouraged from using Wikipedia to write about themselves" (slight paraphrase from original template, I left this out since this info might be excessive at this stage. Also the draft text helps enough that a blocked user can tell us if they want to make edits for any reason, on a COI topic, and if we start discussing this, then we probably need to cover other points too (such as notability, which is usually the reason why "they can but you can't") which will make it longer)
    "You can ask for another administrator to independently review any decision, but in the end you will have to accept their view, even if unfavorable." (hammer home to promoters, that ultimately they do need to accept they cannot edit, if that's how it goes)
  7. I've reduced links given the likely targets of this block, to those links which seem most relevant. Namely, the ones that help a user to understand in the first place whether they should be editing on Wikipedia at all, and why they shouldn't try to edit if their intentions aren't suitable (and how to get help if unsure).

FT2 (Talk | email) 09:44, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

working stuff from etherpad (1)
  1. You must first understand why you were blocked and which policies you breached. If you are not sure, or believe the block is a simple mistake, please tell us as part of your "reason" below.
  2. Then you need to add the following unblock request to the end of your own talk page exactly as shown: {{unblock-spamun|1=Your proposed new username here|2=Your reason and anything else here}}
  3. Replace the text "Your proposed new username here" with a new username that meets our ویکی‌پدیا:سیاست نام کاربری. (Check it isn't already used)
  4. Replace the text "Your reason and anything else here" with your reason to be unblocked, and any other information or comments that you think will help an administrator to decide whether to unblock you. In this reason, you must:
    • You need to explain thoughtfully, with a bit of detail, how exactly - if unblocked - you would plan to edit in a way that is appropriate and constructive, and is not biased or promotional, or just for PR purposes.
    • Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the edits for which you were blocked.
    • Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked
  5. If you will need help or support with your editing, to be sure it meets our policies, please describe the help you may need.

Useful resources: (list of pages)

working stuff from etherpad (2)
http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/dW3AKuTOsJ
  1. Before anything else (Before any request), you must (first?) understand why you were blocked and which policies you breached. If you are not sure, or the block is a simple mistake, please tell us as part of your "reason" below.
  2. Add the following unblock request to the end of your own talk page exactly as shown: {{unblock-spamun|1=Your proposed new username here|2=Your reason and anything else here}}
  3. Replace the text "Your proposed new username here" with a new username that meets our ویکی‌پدیا:سیاست نام کاربری. (Check it isn't already used)
  4. Replace the text "Your reason and anything else here" with your reason to be unblocked, and any other information or comments that you think will help an administrator to decide whether to unblock you. [OPTIONAL? In this reason, you must provide the following:]
    • [Merge following 3 wordings:]
    [You need to?] Explain what you want to do with your editing on Wikipedia (your intentions if you are unblocked).
    You need to explain thoughtfully, with a bit of detail, how exactly - if unblocked - you would edit in a way that is appropriate and constructive, and is not biased or promotional, or just for PR purposes.
    You need to describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked
    • If the block was a simple mistake - you need to show us there was no reason for the block. This means showing that your edits are clearly not related to any kind of PR, spamming, promotion, or dubious activity, and also that your username is acceptable.
    • In any other case - you must convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the edits for which you were blocked. If you don't understand, please ask!
  5. If you will need help or support with your editing, to be sure it meets our policies, please describe the help you may need.
    Useful resources: (list of pages)

It is crucial that you do not just create different accounts to get around the block, even if your request is declined, because this will probably be detected and result in a much more severe block for evasion.

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